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From Achilles Choice by Larry Niven and Steven Barnes

p61: In Matthew 26:11 Jesus said that the poor will always be among us," Jillian said. Her words appeared as white strokes upon a blue visual field. They floated in the air like crisply perfect skywriting.
"And in that sense, he may have been the first theorist in the social applications of fractal geometry.
"The concepts of cognitive dissonance and the inevitable breakdown of communication therefrom have been understood for centuries. However, the unavoidable disintegration of systems as those systems become more complex and unweildly has rarely been considered within a socialogical lattice."
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"A stable society functions much like an organism, with communications between the organ systems, the organs, the tissue structures, the cells, and the organelles. As instructions flow from one level to another, and the inevitable distortions in communication accumulate, what happens?
"At the top, a plan may be shaped to provide the greatest good for the greatest number. But no plan conceived at one end of the spectrum can take into account all of the individuals at the other end. It simply is not possible--there is too much breakdown in communication along the way. Conversely, any system which is modular enough to deal intimately with those at the bottom is too unweildly to be governed from the top.
"Fortunately for those who govern, the appearance of fair play is more important than the reality. At least that's what Machiavelli thought."


I'm sharing this "omwork" with you friends because I see parallels with what is in this book and the choices that are made in our world by our leaders or lack of leaders. The title of the book refers to an oft-quoted myth:

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p35: The tale was told to three billion TV sets during every Olympiad. The gods had offered Achilles a short, glorious life, or a long dull one. He chose glory...


My choice is a long glorious life. Heavy on the long, the gloriousness can trickle in.. he he.. Big Grin

When I was young in California a class project was to create a world. Mine was "Burpth," a positive energy Earth where everyone did what they wanted all day. Little did I know that the millennium would bring the worse to the top, not the cream.

I have to see if I can get my "Don Choprano the godfather of the Highest Family" fiction theme / idea to Steven Barnes. If he can compose around a positivity cult rather than human sacrifice one, many the copy cults.. I mean copy cats would all try to out do each other in positive-visualizing super-heros! Yay! Berkeley Utopianism has a function in this world! he he.. Colors

Love and *LIGHT* *BEING*, Teom Wink Wink

Have the heart of a gypsy, and the dedication of a soldier -Beethoven in Beethoven Lives Upstairs

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Thank you for sharing this information Teo.
I cannot remember when the leaders have made a perfect choice. The governements of the world leave a lot to be desired.


"Fortunately for those who govern, the appearance of fair play is more important than the reality. At least that's what Machiavelli thought."


This is pretty well the way it is.


yoko
Thank you Teo.

p61: In Matthew 26:11 Jesus said that the poor will always be among us,"

I think that Jesus was absolutely right. We will see more and more poverty as the world's food supplies will dwindle.There is overpopulation. The weather is causing great destruction on this planet. Companies are closing and the workers are losing their jobs, and yoko is correct: governements are not what they seem to be; what we see is not always the reality. And the list goes on...



Thank you Teo for reminding us of Dr Deepak Chopra's wisdom; with individuals like him there is still some hope.

As far as this goes:

The gods had offered Achilles a short, glorious life, or a long dull one. He chose glory...

I don't know how much glory there is in the world today. This becomes a difficult choice. I don't even know if one wants to chose a long life? Good question?
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Thank you for this short little post Teo.

I think Jesus was right.

A short and exciting life filled with all sorts of dangerous moments has never appealed to me.
However, I have to agree with Inda, a long life in this day and age may not be appealing either.

I need to think about all this. Thank you for the om-work.

Love,
Vicky 2Hearts
Thanks for the teeny om-work Teo.
I just love these little posts Juggle

Jesus was right. There will always be the poor, and there will more of them than ever as time goes on.

I think I will go with a long and peaceful life. I am too busy, as it is, to look for more excitement.
Sometimes I just want to lie down and have a nap, but when that luxury presents itself, I can be sure the cats will come and wake me up Cat Snoring Cat2
I sincerely thank you all dearly for these great replies. 2Hearts Love2 Hug

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Thanks for the teeny om-work Teo.
I just love these little posts Juggle
You are quite welcome!
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I think I will go with a long and peaceful life... Snoring Cat2
Aaaahhhh... Cloud9 yessss

But many would take Achilles' choice.. to bad! Slow down! You'll live longer.

Meanwhile, I'm relaxing into new technologies, let me see if this can be added to a post...

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I'm sharing this "omwork" with you friends because I see parallels with what is in this book and the choices that are made in our world by our leaders or lack of leaders. The title of the book refers to an oft-quoted myth:

I am afraid that nothing has changed, and probably never will.

Let us just keep on going and do what is right.

As far as the poor are concerned, there is no such culture. We need to give the poor employment so that they can elevate themselves to a better life, and no longer be called "the poor."

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